Kanyon CoyoteWoman Sayers-Roods: Decolonizing & Reindigenizing Our Relationships (Rebroadcast)

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Kanyon Sayers-Roods is Costanoan Ohlone-Mutsun and Chumash; she also goes by her given Native name, “Coyote Woman”. She is proud of her heritage and her native name (though it comes with its own back story), and is very active in the Native Community.

She is an Artist, Poet, Published Author, Activist, Student and Teacher. The daughter of Ann-Marie Sayers, she was raised in Indian Canyon, trust land of her family, which currently is one of the few spaces in Central California available for the Indigenous community for ceremony.

Kanyon’s art has been featured at the De Young Museum, The Somarts Gallery, Gathering Tribes, Snag Magazine, and numerous Powwows and Indigenous Gatherings. She is a recent graduate of the Art Institute of California, Sunnyvale, obtaining her Associate and Bachelor of Science degrees in Web Design and Interactive Media. She is motivated to learn, teach, start conversations around decolonization and reinidgenization, permaculture and to continue doing what she loves, Art.

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Interview Highlights:

  • Kanyon CoyoteWoman speaks to her experience as an ancestor in training and as an indigenous entrepreneur

  • The importance of establishing authentic relationship through asking, listening, respecting, humility, & permission

  • Why we should be shifting policy to authentically understand & respect local indigenous cultures

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George Goehl: Building a Bigger "We"

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Building powerful state-level organizations aligned around a long-term agenda for racial, economic, climate, and gender justice starts with one thing: individual communities. Identifying, recruiting, and developing skills that help others act and become leaders themselves builds a community’s ability to control the forces that affect it, and large-scale change is possible when organizing is coordinated across many communities at the same time.

George Goehl is a community organizer, activist, and the outgoing Executive Director of People’s Action, a national network of state and local grassroots power-building organizations united in their fight for justice. George is a leader in transforming the field of community organizing to increase relevance to emerging social movements, building electoral power in states, and winning structural change that shifts the balance of power to working class families. His efforts have helped to craft city, state, and federal campaigns on issues that range from outlawing predatory lending and advancing immigration reform to multiracial organizing in rural communities and defining co-governing.

In today’s episode, we discuss the power of some basic fundamental principles that inform George’s strategies to build a bigger ‘we’, including starting where people are at, learning to suspend judgement, and engaging those who don’t agree with you. Tuning in, you’ll learn how People’s Action seeks to create social cohesion between disparate groups, build trust in rural communities, and reconcile restrictive legislation with progressive ideals, plus so much more! We hope you’ll join us for this inspiring conversation.

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • How George first learned to organize in a soup kitchen in Southern Indiana.

  • Some fundamentals that inform the strategies he employs to empower the working class.

  • The value of stepping out of your comfort zone and engaging those who disagree with you.

  • Opportunities for bridging and social cohesion between disparate groups.

  • The importance of being present to build trust and help people make meaning of changing sociopolitical conditions.

  • The key to building member-driven organizations versus staff-driven ones.

  • How People’s Action fosters pride without promoting ‘white pride’ in low income communities.

  • The process of “getting real” to reconcile restrictive legislation with progressive ideals.

  • What’s next for George as he steps down as Executive Director of People’s Action.

  • How you can help George build the next economy by coming along for the ride!

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Tweetables:

“At the end of the day, the primary challenge is that both low income and working class people don’t have the power they need to move the ideas that they have about what would make their lives better.” — @GeorgeGoehl

“Learning to start where the other person is at, to understand the human needs behind whatever the other person is experiencing or feeling can transform all the relationships in your life; it just happens to be really powerful for organizing.” — @GeorgeGoehl

“Every time we’re not present to help [people] make meaning, somebody else is. We’ve already retreated from so many parts of the country and have forfeited hearts and minds to some very hateful forces.” — @GeorgeGoehl

“[We have to] understand the conditions that we’re operating in, really understand America, and figure out what shifts we have to make to be able to build a big enough, sustainable majority to move ideas into reality [and] protect them.” — @GeorgeGoehl

“For us to become [an] America that has reckoned with our contradictions and repaired the harms, we need majorities. This can’t be a project only some of us are in.” — @GeorgeGoehl

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

People’s Action — https://peoplesaction.org/

People’s Action Institute — https://peoplesaction.org/institute/

George Goehl on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-goehl-18a02a9/

George Goehl on Twitter — https://twitter.com/georgegoehl

To See Each Other Podcast — https://peoplesaction.org/to-see-each-other/

The Next Move Podcast — https://peoplesaction.org/nextmove/

The Fundamentals of Organizing — https://georgegoehl.substack.com/

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Dan Miller: Building Equitable Food Systems

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America (and the world at large) is in the midst of a major catastrophe. Natural ecosystems are collapsing and the people who have the power to reverse the damage that is being caused are unable to access the capital they need to do so. That’s where Steward comes in. 

Dan Miller, the Founder and CEO of Steward, came to the realization that the traditional lending model used in the agricultural space favors large-scale producers of a limited scope of products, which is why he decided to design a private lending platform that provides regenerative farmers, fishers, ranchers, and producers with the resources they need to sustain and expand their enterprises.

In today’s episode, Dan shares the journey that culminated in the founding of Steward, and how he plans to use this innovative platform to build a future wherein our food systems are equitable, economically viable, and ecologically restorative.

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • Where Dan’s interest in agriculture originated and the journey that led him to found Steward.  

  • Problems that farmers are faced with in terms of accessing capital.

  • How Steward loans are structured and the flexibility that they provide to their borrowers.

  • An exciting example of a project funded by revenue based financing.

  • Why Steward doesn’t take any spread and the model they have chosen to use instead.

  • What Dan has done from a regulatory point of view to make Steward work. 

  • How subscribers interface with the Steward platform. 

  • The way Steward is responding to historically excluded farmers. 

  • Dan explains how Steward is funded.

  • The vision that Dan has for the future of regenerative agriculture. 

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Tweetables:

“What I think is missing in agriculture is flexibility and customization. Our goal is to be designed around the needs of the farmer.” — @GoSteward

“Government policy defines the entire market. Government policy in America, historically and primarily now, is focused on large commodity production of a few products, so if you're outside of that system, there is very little capital available.” — @GoSteward

“Most businesses can’t raise any financing; banks won’t lend to them. With Steward’s model of financing, the broader issue is access to capital for small business. Our focus on regenerative agriculture is really just a subset of small business.” — @GoSteward

“Just like our own software raises financing from broad pools of people, we’re doing the same thing for our company.” — @GoSteward

“It has to work in terms of economics; the people paying for the food at a price that can cover labor costs make it worth it for the farmers and the owners. It also has to broaden access to that type of food.” — @GoSteward

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Steward — https://gosteward.com/ 

Steward on Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/GoSteward/ 

Steward on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/steward/ 

Steward on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/company/go-steward/ 

Dan Miller on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-miller-0a41357/

Dan Miller on Twitter — https://twitter.com/GoSteward

Fundrise — https://fundrise.com/ 

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Tameka Peoples: Seed 2 Shirt

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The cotton industry has a long, fraught history in the United States, and it continues to have very damaging human and environmental impacts to this day. Tameka Peoples, founder of Seed 2 Shirt is on a mission to change the relationship we have with cotton and the people who farm it. 

Seed 2 Shirt is the first black woman-owned, ethically produced, eco-friendly, blank t-shirt company. Not only are they bringing you high quality products which are produced in an environmentally friendly way, but they also ensure that the people who produce the shirts are being supported and enriched through every purchase of a Seed 2 Shirt product! 

Join us today for an education on the textile which helped turn the United States into what it is today, and hear how you can support a just and sustainable clothing brand! 

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • Tameka shares the founding story of Seed 2 Shirt. 

  • How Seed 2 Shirt enriches the communities of cotton farmers who they source their materials from. 

  • Characteristics that differentiate Seed 2 Shirt from other organ cotton t-shirt companies.

  • The eye-opening lessons Tameka has learned through her journey with Seed 2 Shirt. 

  • A brief overview of the history of the cotton industry in the United States. 

  • Goals that Tameka has for the future of Seed 2 Shirt. 

  • Tameka shares some of the challenges that Tameka and her team are facing. 

  • How climate change is affecting the farmers who Seed 2 Shirt works with.

  • Ways that you can support Seed 2 Shirt. 

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Tweetables:

“We provide the black community from cotton seed to cotton shirt.” — Tameka Peoples, @Seed2Shirt

“We are probably one of the 1% of companies that produces our entire value chain in Africa.” — Tameka Peoples, @Seed2Shirt

“We go beyond just giving you a very quality, organic t-shirt that you know is serving the planet well. We’re also servicing and supporting the people who helped to produce that shirt. That’s our market differentiator.” — Tameka Peoples, @Seed2Shirt

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Seed 2 Shirt — https://seed2shirt.com/ 

Seed 2 Shirt on Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/Seed2Shirt 

Seed 2 Shirt on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/seed2shirt/ 

Seed 2 Shirt on Twitter — https://twitter.com/seed2shirt 

Tameka Peoples on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/tameka-peoples-3824a510/ 

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Saru Jayaraman: Fighting for One Fair Wage

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The sub-minimum wage for tipped workers hasn’t gone up in 30 years. This is a direct result of the undue influence of corporations over our democracy. Saru Jayaraman joins us on the show today to discuss how she is pushing back against these injustices. Saru is an academic at UC Berkeley and the President at One Fair Wage, a national organization working to raise wages for service workers nationwide.

Our conversation with Saru begins with a history of the restaurant industry and the origins of the payment system it adopted which saw newly-freed slaves living entirely on tips. She talks about how this practice has remained largely unchanged and the role that the National Restaurant Association has played in this. Saru speaks about how restaurant chains often lie about the fact that they are not able to pay workers what they deserve, and how this unfair payment system is connected to the mistreatment and sexual harassment of women.

This conversation is not without its silver lining though and Saru weighs in on some of the factors that are pushing the needle forward. We hear about the blow the pandemic struck to the restaurant industry and how this has caused workers to quit in record numbers, which in turn is forcing restaurants to offer better compensation. Saru speaks about the legislative changes happening in many states, the movement of High Road restaurants that are setting an example by treating their workers fairly, and the approach taken by One Fair Wage to put a stop to sub-minimum wage practices across the US.

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • How Saru’s campaign to end sub-minimum wages in the US began

  • The history of minimum wages and the reasons they haven’t gone up in the restaurant industry.

  • The lie that it is impossible to pay workers more when there is data to prove that it is actually profitable to do so.

  • Harassment that women have to endure while working in the restaurant industry.

  • How the pandemic has threatened the restaurant industry, and how the industry has responded.

  • The need for fair minimum wages to become policy.

  • Resources for restaurants that want to change the status quo.

  • The factors which keep Saru motivated to continue this work.

  • States who are taking legislative action, activist movements in other industries, and what gives Saru hope.

  • What you can do to help Saru grow her mission.

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Tweetables:

  • “This is not just about 13 million workers in the restaurant industry. This goes to the core of our democracy and our economy and our identity as a country.” — @SaruJayaraman

  • “The top reason workers don’t want to work in restaurants is because the pay doesn’t work anymore. They can’t afford to work in restaurants anymore. That has resulted in the silver lining, where workers are finally standing up for themselves for the first time in 150 years.” — @SaruJayaraman

  • “I know a lot of people would come back to their beloved profession if they were paid as the professionals that they are.” — @SaruJayaraman

  • “These are unnatural suppressed wages from an unnaturally imbalanced system where you have corporate trade lobbies overriding our democracy.” — @SaruJayaraman

  • “I see change on the horizon. I see restaurants raising wages.” — @SaruJayaraman

  • “It is not radical to raise the wage to $15 or $18. It is truly radical to suppress the wage so much that the overall minimum wage has not gone up in a decade and the sub-minimum wage for tipped workers hasn’t gone up in 30 years. That is radical.” — @SaruJayaraman

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Saru Jayaraman — https://gspp.berkeley.edu/faculty-and-impact/faculty/saru-jayaraman

Saru Jayaraman on Twitter — https://twitter.com/sarujayaraman

One Fair Wage — https://onefairwage.site/

One Fair Wage https://www.powells.com/book/waging-change-doing-right-by-americas-lowest-wage-workers-9781620975336

Behind the Kitchen Door https://www.powells.com/book/behind-the-kitchen-door-9780801451720

Forked https://www.powells.com/book/forked-9780199380473?partnerid=43963&p_tx

High Road Restaurants – https://www.highroadrestaurants.org/

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Katrina Spade: Recompose Life

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Conventional funerary practices are environmentally problematic. Each year, 2.7 million people die in the US, and most are buried in a conventional cemetery or cremated. Cremation burns fossil fuels and emits carbon dioxide and particulates into the atmosphere, while burial consumes valuable urban land, pollutes the soil, and contributes to climate change through the resource-intensive manufacture and transport of caskets, headstones, and grave liners. Today’s guest knew there had to be a better way.

Katrina Spade is the Founder and CEO of Recompose, a Public Benefit Corporation powered by people who believe in changing the current death care paradigm and approaching this work with energy, tenacity, and joy. Katrina has been an entrepreneur and a designer since 2002, focused on human-centered ecological solutions. While earning her Masters of Architecture, Katrina invented a system to transform the dead into soil, which is now patent-pending. In 2014, she founded the 501c3 Urban Death Project to bring attention to the problem of a toxic, disempowering funeral industry and, in 2017, she founded Recompose, which specializes in human composting.

In this episode, Erin Axelrod, Partner at LIFT Economy and today’s guest host, speaks to Katrina about the urban equivalent of natural burial and how approaching death as a design challenge can help enable culturally sensitive conversations about a commonly distressing topic. We also touch on the legal challenges Katrina has run into while building her business and she shares her advice for entrepreneurs entering into the fundraising process and building a team, as well as how you can support Recompose by talking about it around the dinner table, plus so much more! We hope you’ll join us today for this fascinating conversation.

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • What sparked Katrina’s curiosity in human-centered ecological solutions and death care.

  • The environmental impact of conventional funerary practices versus ‘natural burial’.

  • Enabling culturally sensitive conversations about death by viewing it as a design challenge.

  • Find out how Katrina developed her system of transforming the dead into compost.

  • Insight into the composting process, from human remains to cubic yard of soil.

  • Some challenges Katrina has encountered while building Recompose, including legal ones.

  • Her advice for fundraising: get really clear on the type of investor you’re looking for.

  • The joy and inspiration Katrina has found in building a team and what the future of Recompose looks like.

  • How you can support Recompose in 2022 by becoming an evangelist for the idea.

  • How COVID has reminded us of our mortality and brought these conversations to the fore.

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Tweetables:

“You’ve got, on the one hand, the manufacture and transport of graves and headstones and the upkeep of the cemetery and, on the other hand, you have the burning of fossil gas that is used to incinerate a body and the particulates and mercury and carbon that’s emitted.” — @KatrinaSpade

“Approaching [death] from a design challenge perspective makes it a little bit more approachable.” — @KatrinaSpade

“We believe in growing [our business] because we know that people want to be composted and we need to be there for them to do that, but we also don’t believe in growth at all costs.” — @KatrinaSpade

“Much like architecture, being an entrepreneur is a lot of figuring out what you don’t know. You can never be doing all of the work, nor should you, but you do need to have a good sense of what kind of skillsets, what kind of expertise you need to find.” — @KatrinaSpade

“We’re part of this grand cycle. It can bring comfort to see that part of our small, human lifespan and what part we play in the larger cycles and where our atoms and molecules might go next. To me, that’s exciting or gives me at least a little bit of comfort.” — @KatrinaSpade

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Recompose — https://recompose.life/

Katrina Spade on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrina-spade-37047439/

Katrina Spade on Twitter — https://twitter.com/katrinaspade

Katrina Spade on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/katrinaspade/

‘When I die, recompose me’ TED Talk — https://www.ted.com/talks/katrina_spade_when_i_die_recompose_me

Erin Axelrod on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinaxelrod

Caitlin Doughty: Let's Visit the Human Composting Facility! — https://youtu.be/_LJSEZ_pl3Y

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Arianna Taboada: Parental Leave as an Issue of Social Justice, Human Rights, and Economic Equity

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How do you design parental leave in a way that works for you, your family, and your business without sacrificing entrepreneurial success? Today’s guest is a parental leave consultant who provides expecting business owners with a step-by-step blueprint for planning their parental leave while ensuring that their small business runs smoothly and successfully in their absence.

Arianna Taboada is the Founder of The Expecting Entrepreneur, a consulting firm that helps entrepreneurs design parental leave plans that fit their business models and personal needs. Arianna speaks and writes about parental leave and respectful maternity care as an issue of social justice, human rights, and economic equity. She is also the author of a book by the same name, The Expecting Entrepreneur: A Guide to Parental Leave Planning for Self Employed Business Owners.

In this episode of Next Economy Now, guest host, Fabiola Santiago, speaks with Arianna about rethinking family leave in the US, which is the only industrialized country that doesn’t have a national paid parental leave program, and Arianna shares three key strategies that can help business owners plan their parental leave, drive change, and create opportunity. We also touch on ways of reshaping our relationship with mental health and grief, and Ariana shares her perspective on building the next economy, which centers around sharing resources and building community. Tune in today!

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • Insight into Arianna’s background and how she came to be a parental leave consultant.

  • What the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) entitles you to and why it’s exclusionary.

  • How to rethink family leave in the US and build businesses that drive change.

  • Three concrete strategies that can assist business owners in planning parental leave.

  • The power of business operations, financial planning, and building solid support systems.

  • Reshaping our relationship with mental health as we make major life transitions like becoming a parent or starting a business.

  • What the Indigenous midwifery concept of ‘la pequeña muerte’ taught Arianna about grief.

  • Arianna’s perspective on building the next economy: the power of sharing resources.

  • What is bringing her joy right now, including shifting how she thinks about impact.

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Tweetables:

“The US is the only industrialized country that does not have a national paid [parental] leave program, and that is in spite of pretty strong public support across the political spectrum, across families of all types, and [across] businesses of all types.” — @Ariannataboada

“Life transitions, like pregnancy, like becoming a parent, like starting a business, are key drivers for change and windows for opportunity. In a similar way, if we want to do business differently, we need to build infrastructure and community around that.” — @Ariannataboada

“What are the places and communities where a resource like [my book] would make sense to offer up? I’m curious about what places, whether it’s entrepreneurship groups or parenting groups, could use [my] book and share it.” — @Ariannataboada

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Arianna Taboada — https://www.Ariannataboada.com/

Arianna Taboada on Twitter — https://twitter.com/Ariannataboada

Arianna Taboada on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/Ariannataboada/

Arianna Taboada on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/Ariannataboada/

The Expecting Entrepreneur — https://www.theexpectingentrepreneur.com/

The Expecting Entrepreneur https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780578933443

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Agrarian Trust: Changing the Way We Think About Farmland and Food Systems

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For too long, the personal property model, instituted by white settlers, has dominated the agricultural space. This has resulted in an unjust, inequitable system within which less than 2% of farmland is owned by people of color. The Agrarian Trust is on a mission to change this through “transitioning farmland from a commoditized market place into a community-centered commons.”

The Agrarian Commons model which they have developed focuses on the human connection to soil and food, and the Agrarian Trust itself looks at bringing together knowledge and resources to support local communities in creating new ways of holding and working with land. 

In today’s episode, Ian McSweeney, the director of the Agrarian Trust, and his colleague, Eliza Spellman Taylor, join us to share the journey that this growing organization has been on for the past few years, what the future holds for them, and how we can all be a part of changing our food system for the better. 

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • How the Agrarian Trust came into being, and the three-part mission which forms the foundation of this organization.

  • An explanation of the relationship between the Agrarian Commons and the Agrarian Trust. 

  • The intention behind the creation of the Agrarian Commons model.

  • Examples of the Agrarian Commons model in action.

  • Statistics which highlight the unjustness of the agricultural system. 

  • The transition period we are currently in the midst of with regard to land ownership. 

  • What the future looks like for the Agrarian Commons and the Agrarian Trust.

  • How the Agrarian Commons model benefits food growers, food consumers, and the planet as a whole.

  • Ways that you can support the work being done by the Agrarian Trust. 

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Tweetables:

“Agrarian Commons is inherently about communities, land, people, farmers, and how all of those move and support a healthy system.” — Eliza Spellman Taylor

“We had the intention of trying to create a model, the Agrarian Commons, that has some shared values and structure and similarities, and also is unique to place.” — Ian McSweeney

“Less than 2% of farmland is owned by people of color, and over 70% of farmers and farmworkers are people of color. It’s so grossly unjust.” — Ian McSweeney

“A lot of communities are really interested in not mimicking the white settler personal property model that we’ve had in this country since its beginning, but instead creating a new way of decommodifying land and holding land in community.” — Eliza Spellman Taylor

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Ian McSweeney — https://agrariantrust.org/team-members/1637/

Eliza Spellman Taylor — https://agrariantrust.org/team-members/eliza-spellman-taylor/

Agrarian Trust — https://agrariantrust.org/

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Robin DiAngelo: White Fragility (Rebroadcast)

Dr. Robin DiAngelo received her PhD in Multicultural Education from the University of Washington in Seattle in 2004. She earned tenure at Westfield State University in Massachusetts. Currently she is Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington, Seattle. In addition, she holds two Honorary Doctoral Degrees. Her area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, tracing how whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives. 

She is a two-time winner of the Student’s Choice Award for Educator of the Year at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work. She has numerous publications and books, including Is Everybody Really Equal?: An Introduction to Key Concepts in Critical Social Justice Education, co-written with Özlem Sensoy, and which received both the American Educational Studies Association Critics Choice Book Award (2012) and the Society of Professors of Education Book Award (2018). 

In 2011 she coined the term White Fragility in an academic article. Her book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism was released in June of 2018 and is currently being translated into 10 languages.

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Interview Highlights:

Some highlights from Ryan Honeyman’s Conversation with Robin DiAngelo include:

  • How Dr. DiAngelo first got into this work as a “classic white progressive” who was “clueless about racism.”

  • Why good, open-minded, liberal progressives (who marched in the 60s) still have a fundamentally racist worldview

  • How having one or more historically marginalized identities (e.g., being a woman, low-income, LGBTQ, etc.) does not mean that one understands the experience of racism

  • Why naming, disrupting, and dismantling white supremacy shifts the problem to white people, where it belongs.

  • How the unexamined values of individualism, meritocracy, objectivity, and conflict avoidance are part of the dominant culture and lead to problematic outcomes for people of color.

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Rick Ridgeway: Why Patagonia is Moving from Sustainability to Regeneration (Rebroadcast)

"When you dig down into any social justice issue, more often than not, the causes have some root in environmental degradation."  - Rick Ridgeway

In this episode of Next Economy Now, Ryan Honeyman, a Partner at LIFT Economy, interviews Rick Ridgeway, VP of Environmental Initiatives at Patagonia.

Rick Ridgeway is one of the originals at Patagonia. He was rock climbing buddies with Yvon Chouinard before Patagonia was founded in 1973.

In this episode, we discuss Rick’s background as a photographer and filmmaker, his time on Patagonia's board of directors, and why Rick got his first “real job” only 12 years ago. We also dive into Patagonia’s famous mission statement to “Build the best product, cause no unnecessary harm, and use business to inspire and implement solutions to the environmental crisis.”

As you’ll hear, Rick is especially interested in moving away from “causing no unnecessary harm” (or sustainability) to “doing good” (which is regenerative). Rick and I discuss how things like soil health, regenerative agriculture, rotational grazing, and clothing that benefits the climate are increasingly on Patagonia’s radar.

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Interview Highlights:

In this interview, Ryan and Rick discuss a number of topics, including:

  • Why Patagonia doesn’t mention solving social or community issues in its mission statement

  • What happened when Patagonia discovered forced labor in its Tier 2 and Tier 3 suppliers last year

  • Why the Sustainable Apparel Coalition is the largest trade association in apparel and footwear in the world

  • Whether he is optimistic or pessimistic about the future

  • Patagonia’s new initiatives in carbon sequestration

  • Why you should know Fred Kirschenmann (from the Aldo Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture), the Carbon Underground, and Kiss the Ground

  • And much more

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Layla Saad: Me and White Supremacy (Rebroadcast)

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For the next few weeks of the New Year, we will be reposting some of our most popular episodes of all time from the Next Economy Now podcast. This is from our June 2019 interview with Layla Saad.

Layla is a New York Times bestselling author, globally respected speaker, and podcast host on the topics of race, identity, leadership, personal transformation and social change.

As an East African, Arab, British, Black, Muslim woman who was born and grew up in the West, and lives in Middle East, Layla has always sat at a unique intersection of identities from which she is able to draw rich and intriguing perspectives. Layla's work is driven by her powerful desire to 'become a good ancestor'; to live and work in ways that leave a legacy of healing and liberation for those who will come after she is gone.

Me and White Supremacy, a New York Times bestseller, is Layla's first book. Initially offered for free following an Instagram challenge under the same name, the best-selling digital Me And White Supremacy Workbook was downloaded by close to ninety thousand people around the world in the space of six months, before becoming a traditionally published book. Layla's work has been brought into homes, educational institutions and workplaces around the world that are seeking to create personal and collective change.

Layla earned her Bachelor of Law degree from Lancaster University in the United Kingdom. She lives in Doha, Qatar with her husband, Sam, and two children, Maya and Mohamed. Find out more about Layla at www.laylafsaad.com.

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Interview Highlights:

  • The backstory on Layla’s new book Me and White Supremacy

  • Layla’s defines some basic terms and understanding and describes her approach

  • How this challenging self reflective work is not a replacement for outward action

  • Prioritizing self care along with personal work

  • Rooting this work in person, on the ground, in community

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Varshini Prakash: The Sunrise Movement (Rebroadcast)

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As we dip into the winter months, we will be reposting some of our most popular episodes of all time from the Next Economy Now podcast. This is from our February 2019 interview with Varshini Prakash.

Varshini was born and raised outside Boston, MA. She got involved in the climate movement as an undergraduate at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. She joined the UMass Fossil Fuel Divestment campaign early in her time at UMass and led the campaign for two years.

For the last three years, she has coordinated fossil fuel divestment campaigns with the Fossil Fuel Divestment Student Network at a regional and national level. She supported campaigns across the country through training, mentorship, and strategic guidance. Varshini supported the launch of Sunrise, a movement building an army of young people to stop climate change and create millions of good jobs in the process.

For the show notes, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/varshini-prakash

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Some highlights from Erin Axelrod’s conversation with Varshini Prakash include:

  • The Sunrise Movement is mobilizing tens of thousands to stop business as usual with The Green New Deal

  • The Green New Deal aims to address our climate crisis as well as wealth- and racial inequity

  • Today’s youth leadership are particularly positioned to be vanguards for social change

  • Envisioning a world where all of our basic needs as humans are met while providing a benefit to each other and our environment and contrasting this vision with our current world which is more of a lose-lose, zero-sum game.

  • How the Green New Deal harkens back to The New Deal and how the Green New Deal will similarly take many pieces of legislation over a period of decades.

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Aaron Tanaka: Creating a Just, Regenerative, and Democratic Economy (Rebroadcast)

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As we dip into the holiday season, we will be reposting some of our most popular episodes of all time from the Next Economy Now podcast. This is from our March 2019 interview with Aaron Tanaka, founder and Director of the Boston-based Center for Economic Democracy. Aaron is also a community organizer, grant-maker, impact investor, and a founding organizer of the Boston Ujima Project, which brings together neighbors, workers, business owners and investors to create a new community-controlled regional economy. He is an Echoing Green and BALLE Fellow, and co-chair of the national New Economy Coalition and the Asian American Resource Workshop.

Some highlights from Ryan Honeyman’s Conversation with Aaron Tanaka include:

  • How Aaron got into the work he is doing today

  • Aaron’s thoughts on democratizing capital and the launch of the Boston Ujima Project

  • How social entrepreneurs can get more involved in grassroots activism and movement building

  • The balance between creating examples of Next Economy solutions and organizing for policy change at the government level

  • Aaron’s thoughts on how folks can help create the Next Economy 

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Autumn Brown: The Solidarity Economy (Rebroadcast)

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As we dip into the holiday season, we will be reposting some of our most popular episodes of all time from the Next Economy Now podcast. This is from our October 2019 interview with Autumn Brown.

Autumn Brown is a mother, organizer, theologian, artist, and facilitator. She is a Worker-Owner with AORTA, the Anti-Oppression Resource & Training Alliance, and cohosts the podcast How to Survive the End of the World with her sister, adrienne maree brown. She serves on the Board of Directors of the Common Fire Foundation and Voices for Racial Justice.

In addition to her work as a facilitator, political educator, and consultant, Autumn is a speculative and creative non-fiction writer. Her work has been published in the Procyon Science Fiction Anthology, Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction Stories from Social Justice Movements, Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good, and Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines. She lives in Minnesota.

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Interview Highlights:

  • How Autumn first got into the type of work she is doing today

  • Worker cooperatives and why Americans are so resistant to cooperation

  • How to practice inclusive decision-making with internal teams

  • Autumn’s work at the Anti-Oppression Resource and Training Alliance (AORTA)

  • The podcast “How to Survive the End of the World,” which Autumn co-hosts with her sister, adrienne marie brown.

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Next Economy MBA: Free Event -- Meet the Facilitators & Interactive Q&A!

For those interested in developing skills and knowledge and becoming part of a learning community intent on transforming the economy for all

Are you a concerned citizen with a bold world-changing idea?  Do you have a friend/family member wanting to align their work or money with their values?

Join a free webinar with the LIFT Economy team to answer all your questions about our upcoming Cohort of our Next Economy MBA program! So far - over 275 people have gone through or are enrolled in the Next Economy MBA program - growing the network of visionaries who are boldly and radically redefining the way our economy works.

Upcoming dates for the free intro webinar include:

Our next Cohort (Cohort VIII) of the Next Economy MBA starts:

Entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs often want knowledge about the fundamentals of business, but the content taught in the vast majority of MBA programs is based on outdated principles that were developed during the industrial revolution and oriented toward the outcome of producing functional mid-level managers of large multinational corporations. MBA programs are also incredibly expensive, costing roughly $100k-$150k for a two-year degree. This ultimately exacerbates the cycle of wealth extraction and forces aspiring entrepreneurs to become reliant on high-salary positions to pay down their debt.

The LIFT team has spent ten years working with more than 300 social enterprises and organizations that are building the Next Economy. We have identified patterns that we feel that every entrepreneur should know in order to be prepared for the future of business. 

  • What is the Next Economy? Cumulatively, the LIFT team has decades of experience bringing innovative ideas from idea stage into action in the next economy. We'll discuss our observations of the principles entailed in operating Next Economy enterprises and how you can be a part of this emergence.

  • What will I learn? During this call we will answer your questions about the Next Economy MBA and cover a summary of the core concepts we will cover in the training.  We will share an example of one of the key organization templates we use in the training and offer that to you free.  

  • Are you dissatisfied with your existing career or seeking pathways to do more? We'll walk you through the options from career-shifting to working within the belly of the existing corporate structures to effect radical transformation and channel resources towards the next economy.

LIFT Economy's Next Economy MBA is a nine-month online learning course for entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from a regenerative, Next Economy perspective.

Chris Crass: Let's Talk About White People

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Today’s guest is Chris Crass, one of the leading voices in North America calling for and supporting white people to work for racial justice. He is a social justice educator who writes and speaks widely on the themes of coming together for racial justice, why anti-racism is vital for white people, lessons from past justice movements, and how a vision of collective liberation can move us into effective action. He also writes on feminism for men and lessons from past movements on creating a healthy culture in leadership for progressive activism. 

Chris works with community groups, schools, and faith communities to develop leadership and momentum for social justice action. His passion is working with students, faculty, and staff to connect to their deepest values, overcome divisions, and act with love and courage for racial justice. He helped found the Catalyst Project and launch SURJ (Showing Up for Racial Justice), and he is the author of a number of books, including Towards Collective Liberation: Anti-Racist Organizing, Feminist Praxis, and Movement Building Strategy and Towards the Other America: Anti-Racist Resources for White People Taking Action for Black Lives Matter.

In today’s episode, Chris shares how he came to recognize the importance of creating a positive vision for liberation and how he seeks to educate and empower white anti-racists to make the systemic and cultural changes that we so desperately need. Chris believes that, while we absolutely need to challenge racism in white communities and support BIPOC-led multiracial movements, we also need to cultivate dynamic white anti-racist leadership and encourage white folks to engage in the liberation movement in a powerful, positive, and impactful way. Tune in today to learn more about his vision and find out what you can do to “rock it for justice!”

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • The seeds of social justice activism in Chris’ early life; anti-racist views for white kids.

  • Cultivating the conditions necessary for creating as many white anti-racists as possible.

  • Supporting BIPOC-led multiracial organizations while also building the capacity and resources for dynamic white anti-racist leadership.

  • How the Black liberation movement has worked to free white folks from supremacist systems.

  • Chris’ both/and approach to social justice that invites nuance and collective participation.

  • Overcoming the challenges of white fragility and comparative suffering.

  • Advocating for systemic, collective, and individual change; everyone has a place in this work.

  • Expanding on awesomeness while working for justice rather than focusing on the negatives.

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Tweetables:

“[I recognized] how important cultural shift is, how important it is to not only argue against racism but to try to bring a positive vision of liberation into the lives of our families, our communities, and into the lives of our children.” — @chriscrass

“What are the conditions, the possibilities, what are the things that can help create as many white anti-racists as possible and help them be effective in helping make the systemic and cultural changes that we desperately need?” — @chriscrass

“Yes, we need to be aware of and challenge the racism in white communities; absolutely! But we also want to help white folks engage in liberation movements in a powerful, positive, impactful way. We [also] need to be able to hear the anti-racist aspirations of white people.” — @chriscrass

“Everyone has a place in this work. Everyone has ways to contribute. There are many different ways of engaging, many different ways of playing important roles.” — @chriscrass

“Expanding [on] awesomeness while working for justice is crucial. That’s how we build power for winning, build power for what we want, while also fighting against what we don’t want.” — @chriscrass

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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Chris Crass: http://www.chriscrass.org/

Towards Collective Liberation: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781604866544

Towards The Other America: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780827237094

Towards The Other America (Free eBook): http://www.chriscrass.org/uploads/1/7/7/9/17797213/towards-the-other-america-ebook.pdf

Catalyst Project: https://collectiveliberation.org/

SURJ (Showing Up for Racial Justice): https://surj.org/

'Chris Crass: Antiracist Work for White People' https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/2018/9/25/next-economy-now

White Supremacy Culture: https://www.whitesupremacyculture.info/

White Awake: https://whiteawake.org/

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Spencer Honeyman: Elite Performance, Innovation, and Healing

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Today’s guest is Spencer Honeyman, an executive coach, group facilitator, and consultant, as well as your host, Ryan Honeyman’s brother. Spencer is a Certified Integral Facilitator and a graduate of Pomona College’s interdisciplinary Environmental Analysis program, and he has taught workshops on communication and group dynamics from MIT to Marrakesh.

He trained with master facilitators, Thomas Hübl and Diane Musho Hamilton, in the subjects of human development, group dynamics, and improvisation before launching Enliven, which offers cutting-edge leadership training and development services for organizations and executives seeking to navigate complexity, improve performance, and facilitate connection. Spencer also has over a decade of practice in shadow yoga and Tibetan meditation practices and is trained in the Art of Circlesinging in the lineage of Bobby McFerrin through Dave Worm. He blends his diverse training in somatics, subtle energetics, and the development of the higher levels of the mind with grounded, project-based leadership skills to address collective trauma and facilitate healing.

In this episode, we discuss the collective healing journey and Spencer’s role as a facilitator at an organizational or executive level. Spencer brings to our attention the subtle, somatic ways in which we interact with each other and our environment and highlights the importance of slowing down and finding ways to connect with those around you. He also shares some techniques for transforming conflict with creativity and compassion and communicating despite strong emotions, which he believes is necessary in order to tackle serious issues like climate change and political polarization. Tune in today to learn more!

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • How his fascination with human collaboration led Spencer to the work he does today.

  • The subtle, somatic ways that we are attuned to plants, animals, and one another.

  • Symptoms and effects of collective trauma and methods for healing and integration.

  • Find out how the Enliven Academy provides collective education for purpose-driven entrepreneurs and change-makers.

  • Music integration and how Spencer incorporates Circlesinging as a leadership tool.

  • What Diane Musho Hamilton taught Spencer about skillful communication and mediation.

  • How to transform conflict with creativity and compassion by drawing attention to its polarity.

  • The containers and skills necessary for communicating through strong emotions to address issues like climate change.

  • The importance of finding moments to slow down and connect with those around you.

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Tweetables:

“We have this deep, hardwired system that we’re operating on, of being attuned to the lifeworld of plants and animals and each other in a subtle, somatic way. We often write that information off.” — @s_honeyman

“[Collective healing] requires a level of willingness to enter into some of the ways that we feel disconnected from one another, and those can have historical roots.” — @s_honeyman

“You can do mediation from a neutral, third-party perspective, or you can hold mediation from a place of emptiness of self, such that you can be a part of that mediation without so much attachment.” — @s_honeyman

“[We] need to be able to handle our own emotions when they rise up, [to] communicate even in strong emotions without rupturing or throwing relationships out the window. How can we love each other and still be strong? What are the containers and skills for doing that?” — @s_honeyman

“Find moments where you can slow down, put your phone down, put the marketing plan down, put the laptop down, and just connect with the people around you.” — @s_honeyman

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Lyla June: Indigenous Europe and the Value of Knowing Your Ancestors (Rebroadcast)

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This is a rebroadcast of our June 2020 interview with Lyla June, an Indigenous environmental scientist, doctoral student, educator, community organizer and musician of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages from Taos, NM.

Her dynamic, multi-genre performance and speech style has invigorated and inspired audiences across the globe towards personal, collective and ecological healing. Her messages focus on the climate crisis, Indigenous rights, supporting youth, inter-cultural healing, historical trauma and traditional land stewardship practices.

She blends her undergraduate studies in human ecology at Stanford University, her graduate work in Native American Pedagogy at the University of New Mexico, and the indigenous worldview she grew up with to inform her perspectives and solutions. Her internationally acclaimed performances and speeches are conveyed through the medium of prayer, hip-hop, poetry, acoustic music and speech. Her personal goal is to grow closer to Creator by learning how to love deeper.

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Interview Highlights:

  • Lyla’s background and upbringing

  • How she first got into the work she is doing today

  • How being a person of intersecting racial and cultural identities has shaped her worldview

  • Why it is important for white folks to understand they have roots deeper than whiteness

  • Why she ran for office in New Mexico and the result of her seven day fast on the steps of the state capitol

  • Lyla’s recommendations on resources 

  • How folks can better support her work

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David Jaber: Climate Positive Business

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Reducing greenhouse gas emissions isn’t easy, but with 70 more ppm of these gases in the atmosphere than there should be, we are well past the point where we have a choice around whether we are going to do it or not. In order to achieve the Paris Agreement target of a 50% reduction in greenhouse gases over the next 12 years, a collaborative, holistic approach is essential.

By now, everyone has heard of the terms net-zero and carbon-neutral, but today’s guest takes this concept one step further by advocating for climate positivity. David Jaber is the founder of Climate Positive Consulting, a company that helps other companies advance their climate strategy, undertake carbon footprint analyses, and reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. He is also involved with a number of other organizations working towards social and environmental justice, and he is the author of the recently released book, Climate Positive Business. 

In today’s episode, we discuss David’s lifelong interest in sustainability, what carbon offsetting is and the problems with this model, and what companies should be doing instead, so as not to inflict damage on the environment. David has been working in the climate realm for many years, and the explosion of interest that he has seen take place in this space relatively recently gives us all hope for the future. 

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • Where David’s interest in environmental issues originated, and how it developed over time.

  • The main aims of David’s company, Climate Positive Consulting. 

  • David explains the difference between carbon neutral and climate positive goals. 

  • How greenhouse gas analytics work in terms of scope 1, 2, and 3 emissions. 

  • The Paris Agreement target: a 50% reduction of greenhouse gases in the next 12 years. 

  • David shares his thoughts on problems with the offsetting strategy.

  • Political battles which prevent real, significant change from taking place in the climate realm.

  • Tradeoffs that need to be considered before a sustainability-focused project is undertaken.

  • Embodied (“zombie”) carbon; what it is and how companies can address it.

  • Steps for companies to follow to reduce their emissions. 

  • The explosion of interest in tackling greenhouse gas footprints, and what David thinks is responsible for this. 

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Tweetables:

“I would define a climate positive business as one that has a net zero goal, coupled with a science-based target. It goes beyond net zero by seeking to have some sort of positive benefits through its efforts to reduce greenhouse gasses.” — @djaberclimate

“Setting a science-based target will result in a 50% reduction in greenhouse gases in 12 years.” — @djaberclimate

“We’re well past the time where any of these inherently bipartisan issues can be partisan.” — @djaberclimate

“Substitution can only get you so far. For real success on climate, companies are going beyond their own boundaries and doing a lot of value chain collaboration.” — @djaberclimate

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Dom Hosack and Blain Snipstal: Earth-Bound Builders

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How do we fundamentally transform the relations of power, production, and consumption in the construction industry? Today we speak to Dom Hosack and Blain Snipstal from Earth-Bound Building about how they are attempting to do this by reimagining new possibilities for provisioning human shelter and farm infrastructure through natural building practices. In this episode, we hear how Blaine and Dom got involved in urban farming, agroecology, and natural building, and the ideas of collectivity that go hand-in-hand with these practices. 

Our guests speak about how this work developed into the formation of their cooperative, the types of projects they took on, and how their work has evolved over the years. Blain and Dom unpack their central value of working toward a just transition by putting dignity at the center of the relations of production they enter into. By joining this conversation, listeners will hear us address the rapid deterioration of our environment and the role of conventional construction and farming practices in this problem. 

We tackle the idea that society as a whole does not seem to care that our world is falling apart and how our guests are forming a counterpoint to this apathy through the work they do. Blaine and Dom also highlight some of the contradictions at the center of sustainable building and the place of smaller coops such as their own in cracking the code on affordable, natural, rural housing in an urban center.

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Key Points From This Episode:

  • An introduction into Earth-Bound Building and the sustainable construction work they do.

  • How Dom and Blain got into the work they do, met each other, and started Earth-Bound.

  • Different low-impact building projects Earth-Bound worked on and how they evolved.

  • The connection between sustainable agriculture, natural building, and collectivity.

  • Three categories of natural building: building systems, enclosures and finishes, and closed-loop systems.

  • The clients Earth-Bound works with and how this fits in with their mission.

  • A spirit of collectivity at Earth-Bound and how this ties in with the idea of just transition.

  • How damaging conventional farming and construction are and the need for the revitalization of traditional methods.

  • The contradiction around affordability at the center of natural building that limits its expansion.

  • Different natural building methods and the hunt Earth-Bound is on to find the most affordable one.

  • What it will take to crack the code on affordable, natural, rural housing in an urban center.

  • The limits of the passive house movement and the need for smaller-scale movements like Earth-Bound.

  • The need for natural building to mirror the shifts in cultural and ethnic demographics.

  • An example of what is possible through collaborative work in the form of a land base Earth-Bound has access to.

  • The true purpose behind Earth-Bound and a request for listeners to join the movement.

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Tweetables:

“There’s a whole new way of thinking around constructing the buildings that we live in and the places that we stay that involves a lot more sustainable practices.” — Dom Hosack

“Sustainable agriculture or agroecology and natural building come from the same root. They are intimately tied together. To have a sustainable agricultural system, the infrastructure has to reflect the values of that said sustainable system, and that lends itself to natural building or low impact construction methodologies.” — Blain Snipstal

“We are firmly rooted in supporting small-scale agriculture, rural landowners, and community projects because we want to be a part of the just transition to a better society.” — Blain Snipstal

“The opportunity is much higher for groups like ourselves to not just only produce real-world experiences and examples of proof of concepts, but to build the social capital necessary to take it to scale in the local economy.” — Blain Snipstal

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